ban request:HandOfMoses,HandOfJudas

Your B-net nickname:apogwlon_
Accused Admin's B-net nickname:HandOfMoses,HandOfJudas

Game name:ap...
Time of Event:5.56 according to d.r.m


Further details:at 5.56(game time) mirana clicks me while i am at fog,going to check rune.did't check for kunkka clicks as they were a stack,so obviously he mhed too.forgot to mention tha other sentinel players synergised with the mhers and didn't say a word.i am definetly sure tha pudge knew about their mh but ganked with them and escaped with their help,without saying anything

Upload replay/screen shot: http://www.adotaparser.com/dota-replay/240737 , https://2img.net/r/ihimg/f/412/maphack1.png/ , https://2img.net/r/ihimg/photo/my-images/27/maphack1.png/

Sry for posting here, i would just like to say my opinion. I watched replay 2 times.
Pudge saw tiny moving up and going to rune + it was 5:55 so even i could guess he is at rune spot.
On first tiny gank up, judas and moses were staying on lane and one of them died because they didnt know tiny is comming.
Around 11th min, 4 scourge players were missing including mid so it was obviuse they were ganking top, you dont need mh to see that.
14:30, scourge miss, tiny dies mirana too. Mirana died in chasing ... coz 2 scourge players show up from fog, she wouldnt do that if mh was on.
20~21 mirana moved on high ground and saw there wasnt anyone right so the arrow went down, there is second or two when you can see that.
25:30 no scourge heroes bot and top, but you could see before 1 or 2 scourge players moving from mid to top lane. And again, you dont need mh to figure that out.
The truth is : some players are more skilled than others and that means they can predict some opponents moves.
This also means some players have more map awareness than others.


Today i saw handofmoses playing pudge and doing too much blind hooks, seems that you are right. Pls dissregard this post

Sharp) wrote:

Sry for posting here, i would just like to say my opinion. I watched replay 2 times.
Pudge saw tiny moving up and going to rune + it was 5:55 so even i could guess he is at rune spot.
On first tiny gank up, judas and moses were staying on lane and one of them died because they didnt know tiny is comming.
Around 11th min, 4 scourge players were missing including mid so it was obviuse they were ganking top, you dont need mh to see that.
14:30, scourge miss, tiny dies mirana too. Mirana died in chasing ... coz 2 scourge players show up from fog, she wouldnt do that if mh was on.
20~21 mirana moved on high ground and saw there wasnt anyone right so the arrow went down, there is second or two when you can see that.
25:30 no scourge heroes bot and top, but you could see before 1 or 2 scourge players moving from mid to top lane. And again, you dont need mh to figure that out.
The truth is : some players are more skilled than others and that means they can predict some opponents moves.
This also means some players have more map awareness than others.

I hope i helped you a little apogwlon_.

You didn't help at all,cause you are clueless.LOL DUDE!!....Do you even know what is the click on fog that i posted?Do you know how can you find maphackers?These two pictures i share shows tha MIRANA CLICKED ME WHILE I WAS ON FOG.If you dont use maphack can you click opponents while they are on fog?i don't hypothised that they have maphack,i proved it,but obviously you cant understnd it.Next time search before posting cause you embarass yourself.

apogwlon_ wrote:

Sharp) wrote:

Sry for posting here, i would just like to say my opinion. I watched replay 2 times.
Pudge saw tiny moving up and going to rune + it was 5:55 so even i could guess he is at rune spot.
On first tiny gank up, judas and moses were staying on lane and one of them died because they didnt know tiny is comming.
Around 11th min, 4 scourge players were missing including mid so it was obviuse they were ganking top, you dont need mh to see that.
14:30, scourge miss, tiny dies mirana too. Mirana died in chasing ... coz 2 scourge players show up from fog, she wouldnt do that if mh was on.
20~21 mirana moved on high ground and saw there wasnt anyone right so the arrow went down, there is second or two when you can see that.
25:30 no scourge heroes bot and top, but you could see before 1 or 2 scourge players moving from mid to top lane. And again, you dont need mh to figure that out.
The truth is : some players are more skilled than others and that means they can predict some opponents moves.
This also means some players have more map awareness than others.

I hope i helped you a little apogwlon_.

You didn't help at all,cause you are clueless.LOL DUDE!!....Do you even know what is the click on fog that i posted?Do you know how can you find maphackers?These two pictures i share shows tha MIRANA CLICKED ME WHILE I WAS ON FOG.If you dont use maphack can you click opponents while they are on fog?i don't hypothised that they have maphack,i proved it,but obviously you cant understnd it.Next time search before posting cause you embarass yourself.

If someone can click on another person on fog of war then it is indeed an undeniable proof of maphack and "having more map awareness than others" argument can be thrown out of the window. I haven't watched the replay yet but if what he says is true then they should be banned instanly without any excuses. I hate feeders & leavers but what I hate even more are hackers. They don't deserve any mercy.

Closed till it will be examined.

Sharp) if you think they dont got mh...what about that
|5:56 HandOfMoses 0x19: Select Subgroup: [Stone Giant] 0x00005B5700009E20

I sent 2 weeks ago some stuff to 1vs6 for checking, and also on clan's mail. Check that out pls

i was inactive for some time beacuse of some probs so idk what did you send..but im talking about this mh..if you see at 5:56 mirana clicks on tiny..and at this time tiny was in fog

yy 1vs6 told me something about it, let him handle it

1vs6 is inactive for long time!


I examined the replay though!

|5:56 HandOfMoses 0x19: Select Subgroup: [Stone Giant] 0x00005B5700009E20
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1st)I was not inactive...I didn't have time to examine clicks with action log for this replay...I have answered almost 95% of abuses....I waited to anwser an other manager!!!
2nd)if they have maphack

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5:56 HandOfMoses 0x19: Select Subgroup: [Stone Giant] 0x00005B5700009E20
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and they are lan
both of them will be banned
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